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Post by Alan Pantell on Sept 17, 2019 13:33:39 GMT
"Woah, woah, woah," said Alan, his breathing still a bit labored. "Take it a bit at a time when telling me about this stuff. It's... intimidating to think about how much there is to do. If you tell me what to do, and I'll do it, though!" He smiled from being pat on the back. Positive reinforcement from digimon always seemed to get right inspire him a lot more purely on the basis of who was providing it. Needless to say, he liked digimon a lot. In fact, when he got the chance, Levi would even quietly relay this to Valt while Ryouta was talking.
"Be sure to come by encourage him every so often. He expects it from me, but there's a lot he'd do for the praise of another digimon. He doesn't have a tail, but you can practically see him wagging it, it's cute~ Also, the more powerful the form, the better he takes it! And we'll be sure to take your advice to heart, though you'll be overseeing us anyway, eheh." With that, Levi would digivolve to ExVeemon beside Valt.
"Welp, we'll be seeing you guys later! Unless we're all staying here, or around here, in which case, we'll be seeing you guys either now or not that later."
Meanwhile, Alan would nod at the request to do squats next. "Ah, okay! But I wanna make sure I'm doing them right before I try anything. Mind if I had a quick refresher?"
"You shouldn't think it as thing that you have to do.It's just option," Valt reassured. "Well, let's see... for breakdown it's like this:"
Valt write something on a piece of paper and start listing off something that Alan can do if he wanted to do simple training without going to the gym: Pushup to train arms and building core, sit up works too, using water bottles for small weights for arm curls (2 liter one suggested, with bunch of them packed together can be used as heavier barbel instead). Pull ups only if he have something that he can use as pull up bars, and using chairs is also good for training)
"...There are also some mangas that can teach you more about exercises without machines. Please use that. Also, please don't forget to do warm ups before training. Not doing warm up before training can lead to severe exhaustion, and shock. Cramps I mean. But yeah, 27, you're doing great you know?"
"Well, after push up... if you feel your stomach is hurting too much, we can probably not do sit up afterward, but if you think you can do some more, try to do sit up," Ryouta told Alan.
Meanwhile, as for Valt....
"...Right, so combat... first and foremost, welcome to Valt's 101 combat training. We'll talk about that. Warm yourself up, and listen to me. While I'm explaining, please try your best to listen and not ask any question before I give you cue to. So... about combat.... How do you fight so far? I want to hear what's your general strategy is, and what do you think is your weakness... then, what do YOU WANT, like what do you aspire to be."
Post by Alan Pantell on Sept 22, 2019 16:55:22 GMT
Alan listened with great interest, nodding every so often to signal this, and looking over to see what Valt was writing. "Fitness manga... that's a new concept to me. Now I have to try it out!" The human boy rolled his shoulders and lifted his arms up and down a bit, laughing as every time he did, his body tended to instantly send a signal that said "WAIT, DON'T DO THAT!"
"Well, it's not my stomach that's being unruly right now, so I should be able to do sit-ups if I can keep my arms in position..." Following this, he would carefully get down on the floor. "Argh," he said, removing his belt. "I need to get a better outfit for this." He'd try his best to do as many as he could, hopefully not too lessened by any other forms of strain.
Levi felt awkward about being told to "warm up for a bit." He had never really done much more than shadowbox to hype himself up, Nevertheless, he would close his eyes and listen, envisioning himself in a fight and going through the motions in order to answer Valt's first questions.
"To be honest," he started, at first weakly making punching motions in the direction of the wall, then gritting his teeth and throwing one with some strength behind it. "...I feel sluggish. I've never actually used this form in combat before. But I've done a bit of training as a rookie. I'm not fancy, that's for sure. Lots of mons seem to enjoy their tricks and their magic. I'm not into that. I just wanna..." Grunting in time, he delivered a three-hit combo to his imaginary opponent, gradually becoming more spirited. Jab, jab, uppercut. Hoo, huh, YAH! "Get in there, ya know? Do some roughhousing, even if it means I gotta take a few hits to do it. At least, that's what I try to do, but I keep flinching first." He'd lower his head and ram his snout blade into his figmentary foe. "Down the line, I wanna surprise 'em by shrugging off a few blows and continuously going in for the hits. It's simple-minded, but it's what I like doin'. Am I making sense?"
"Right, that's the way. So for the position... basically... make sure your legs are close to one another. If you want to add more difficulty, fold your leg, so the upper leg touching the lower one. Put your arms around your head, like sandwiching it, you got it? Afterward, crunch. If possible, try to touch your elbow to your knee. If that's too easy, try to touch your chest to the knees."
Ryouta hoped that instruction is enough for Alan. "Well this is the first time you're doing this sort of exercise... and if you need any new clothes, I'll be accompanying you to buy some after this."
Hmmm, shadowboxing, not too bad, he guess... but Valt meant more to stretching. Well, that's fine. "I see, in that case... I guess I found someone of similar ilk?" Valt commented while grinning. "Back in the past I found fight as something akin to a necessity... but as I die and got reborn as Vmon, I started to notice that I liked fighting quite a bit. Trading blows, taking hit, dealing more hit after taking hits... It's fun.
So, let me ask... are you ready to get bruised? Are you ready to get my teaching pounded directly on you?"
Alan found himself smiling as he continued to follow Ryouta's instructions. It was a unique feeling, but one that the Tamer knew he loved. He had been approached by someone, and though he knew very little, had been offered to be taught personally by someone with lots of experience. In this case, the topic was training and working out, which he admitted he had done very little of until this point. He could feel himself having a positive mental reaction to this already.
Alan would go straight for chest-to-knees, as elbows-to-knees had felt too simple just by the sound of it. It was clear his face would strain on the way up, in response to pain from putting weight on certain parts of his jeans against the ground. At the ninth sit-up after being given those instructions he would falter, but would push through to ten just to have ten before saying quietly, "Agh… yeah... jeans... not a good idea for situps. They're making it hurt for the wrong reasons. I'd appreciate an outing for new clothing very much, thank you! There's gotta be plenty I can do until then where jeans wouldn't get in the way, right? It's way too early to stop!"
Levi made a few glances out of the corner of his eye at Valt, gouging his expression. The inexperienced ExVeemon usually didn't make a conscious effort to warm up before battle, and had to come up with something on the fly upon being told to do so.
But his eyes would grow wide and he would stop in his tracks to stare at Valt. Did this ExVeemon just... fondly reminisce about his own death? Levi certainly felt that fighting was more a necessity than anything, so it would certainly be beneficial to him if he could learn to enjoy it, but that... surely that wouldn't be what it would take!?
What should he say, what should he say? Was saying "no" even an option? Would he be refused training outright, or just handled a bit more lightly. Think, Levi, think! He remembered that day out in the fields... he remembered BlackGrowlmon… and he remembered Lagosmon. And that was it.
He knew his answer. He didn't like it, but he knew it was true. All he had to do was say it.
"I'm ready. I'm too stubborn for an easy approach. If you hold back, I won't improve. That's how I tick."
"Yeah, chaffing, holding your stomach back, it hurts... Uh... please don't think of me wrong when I say this but how about you... unbutton your jeans? Injury in training, also equipment that are not suitable for training could makes your gain to be severely reduced. Not only that if it backfires, it'll eventually will cause problem down the line, so... I guess if possible, you should try to get yourself comfortable...." Ryouta suggested
"I think you should stop there, Aniki, lest it get to innuendo or something," Valt interjected
"Yeah, yeah you're right..." and with that Ryouta simply returned to the training. "Anyway, uh... yeah there'll be a lot. But for the meantime perhaps just... loosen that up a bit."
...Meanwhile on Valt's side... why does he think this upstart XVmon is being rude although he said nothing while his eye widened? Valt tilted his head slowly, as if trying to inquire what is it that the guy felt about. Speaking of which, when he tilted his neck, it's probably obvious that there's scar there on the neck... beheading scar that is.
"Hee... well that's a spirit at least. Glad to see that you're fine with that... Alright, for now... what to do? Do you want to start this with theory, or do you want to start with combat practice?"
Alan would lie down on the ground laugh quietly as Ryouta struggled to explain to him that he wasn't trying to be weird. "No, no, look, man, I get it. Let me tell you, I'm only as uncomfortable as the least comfortable person in the room. If it would minimize unnecessary pain, I'd take these things off. But I am wearing briefs, not boxers, so I will spare anyone the weirdness and just unbutton them." He would do as he claimed, and try the situps once more. "Alright, alright," he said, "this is definitely better. Not great, but better."
"Yes, Levi, I know you are not wearing any clothes. I'm very observant."
"Suit yourself, then~" Levi teased, turning back to Valt, and getting plenty of mixed feelings in his head over whether he should think the scar was cool or be sorry for it. Was it possible for both to be true?
As soon as he was given the choice on how to proceed, he tried to say something, but it caught in his throat. Eventually, he sighed out whatever he was going to say. "Theory, please..."
Somewhere inside him, Levi had been hoping he wouldn't have been given a choice. He was rather hard on himself for what he viewed as "chickening out." No amount of theory would make him not nervous as heck, but it would definitely be useful.
If he doesn't wear any clothes, then Ryouta think that seriously even Ys police are going to give them some piece of their mind (in rather stern way too)... wait, that's him and Valt. They're literally the police force captain (lol). Either way, thankfully it's seem that Alan is in no immediate need of change of clothes yet. It's seem he felt better with that unbuttoning, so Ryouta resumed the counting.
Valt meanwhile nodded at Levi's answer. He know that the younger dragon was about to say "hand-on" impulsively, but managed to rein himself back. He's fine with either, but honestly he's wondering if Levi will regret it if he said combat immediately without any sort of preparation prior.
"...Right, so let's get this lecture started. You already told me what sort of role do you want. What sort of character you want to be in a combat. So that means it's time to build up your techniques. First, you have to know that there are two types of move. Passive and active. The passive is always active regardless of activation, and it's something like what to base your techniques on. The active, meanwhile... well that one you already know, yeah?
Active usually must revolve around passives to make your techniques more potent. There are of course exception but for now... what sort of passive you think you need to gain the combat ability you desire?"
Assuming that Alan would simply continue his sit-ups until he had thoroughly exhausted his ability to continue them, (which wouldn't take too long, given his other attempts at the same exercise from mere moments ago...)
Levi's training had only just begun, and already he was being asked to look at things from an entirely new angle. "Hum..." he mused, "...I've never thought to try and develop my own inherent traits and abilities, but..." The younger ExVeemon folded his hands behind his back and stared at the floor, pacing in a slow, small circle. His imagination tended to work faster that way. "If I'm trying to be relentless, like some kinda berserker, then ideally, I'd be able to weather a bunch of attacks while I try to gain the other hand, then go all in on offense when they start getting worn down. Regardless of how much damage you can do to an enemy, if they don't flinch from it, it becomes a lot harder to keep up the damage. It's intimidating, too, I bet. I don't want to flat-out ignore pain or anything. That's a recipe for disaster... but it'd be nice to give myself an extra push every now and then, when I can't afford to be staggered. It... feels a bit lofty at this point, but it would be an ideal to work towards, right?"
"Made you think, doesn't it?" Valt grinned, nodding his head in approval. "Sometimes people are a bit too focused on what their body can outwardly do, and forgot what their inner body can do." He tapped the younger XVmon on his chest. "Listen carefully to your own data, to what your body is telling you. Don't shoot for something your body is not used to. For example... I probably can fly better than most XVmon due to my Blue Coredramon data, but not everyone are the same...
For example, you might focus on earth type move, but I'm focused on lightning and wind moves... Everything is possible, but it lies in the execution. You can't for example summon a glyph under someone's feet and execute magic. You can however use ki to send a wave toward someone's feet in attempt to launch something under their feet. What's matter is just..." Valt tapped his head "imagination."
Then he mused something for a bit. "Then, regarding your question about your own ability and what you have to do... well, a berserker usually means they have tendency to either ignore pains, or raises strength in return for forgoing defense. Usually total pain immunity completely doesn't worth it as you say, and it completely doesn't worth it even more if you're too angered to care about your situation... But I feel making your data emulates adrenaline might be a good way to compromise. It's just for a bit, but I'm sure it's good enough... What else, what else...
Ignoring paralysis and silence is a bit too niche... so I don't really suggest it."
Levi shivered with a tiny inner delight as Valt offered his (surprisingly literal) words of wisdom. Part of it was that he, personally, enjoyed physical contact, even as small as a tap on the chest. It automatically made him feel closer to the person he was talking to, providing they were the ones to reach out to him. It served as proof of being accepted by them, he felt, but that wasn't quite relevant to the current context... as far as he could tell. Whether it was or not, the older ExVeemon's words were important. These abilities needed to come with within Levi. They had to be what he could do.
With this in mind, Levi closed his eyes and imagined himself again. "Earth, huh..." Earth was good. He liked earth. Among the four elements, it always had seemed undervalued. Its perception wasn't as flashy or bright as the other elements, always viewing it as plain. Maybe that was why, now that he considered it, it suited him. The idea of making use of raw power - of letting the foundation upon which he stood be the foundation for his abilities appealed to him. So he would try earth. This raised another question. He opened his eyes.
"I'm starting to see what I want now, but Valt-sensei... I can only see it. I understand the imagination aspect... I think... but what happens next? I'm quite good at daydreaming, so I say, but what do I do with these images? It's not all going to happen in a day... but even if I can see myself using the powers of earth, weathering attacks, honing my inner strength, what would need to happen for it to come to be. Is it something I need to discover for myself?"
"This is where our talk will become rather technical. So as you know, Digimons are combat species... but have you sincerely thoughts the technical aspect of it? Where does our power came from? What makes our techniques different, individually? Without thinking, you might think that it's a byproduce of a form, but... if you think it deeper, even slight variation between you and me causes us to have different set of techniques. What gives?
As a trainer, I personally picked up that there are three kinds of thing that causes this... First, your personality. Your techniques tends to be like your personality. Hard to see Digimons that have moveset that doesn't suit their personality. Pacifists won't get moves meant to kill, and usually they're less likely to have violent moveset. There are of course exceptions...
Two: Diet and training. For example a Vmon who focuses on junk food and trains less probably wouldn't have moves meant to tank, compared to me, for example,who trains to strike and bear brunt of the damage doing so. The difference of physique definitely affects variation in size and speciality...
Three: The goal upon evolving. This is the most important. Evolution is like a dream of Digicore, and you see... we must want something when the evolution first came about... that is what creates our moveset, on top of the templates. Template here is like techniques that usually very prominent among certain species. Like Agumon breathes fire... that's template. But the rest of it usually follows your inner desires of what you want to be.
...But all of those are done unonsciously, and I mean there are ways to consciously do something... So let's say you want to change your moveset... we Digimons are made out of data... and I have no idea if you will get my super technical talk because you're not a Machine Digimon, so let's skip it and... answer this.
Levi had put thought into these questions before. It didn't matter how many fights he watched; there were too many potential variables for him to say for certain how a digimon's moves come about. A gleam would appear in the younger ExVeemon's eyes. There were no definite answers, but he wasn't about to miss the opinion of someone far more experienced than he, not only in combat, but in life in general.
Personality: This received a nod from Levi. At least this much he had been able to parse, although he supposed it was possible for a digimon's personality to be perceived different based on the moves themselves.
Diet and Training: This time, Valt might have been able to catch a guilty expression pull down Levi's face. He scratched the side of his head, muttering to himself what seemed to be "we're gonna be working on that one..."
Intent Behind Digivolution: Levi paused to reflect on what had led to his digivolution to the form he was currently in. It was in the middle of a training with the intent of making him digivolve. He had desperately wanted to gain the strength needed to protect Alan as well as himself, but that was as far as it went. Strength was certainly something he now had, moreso than when he was Veemon. What he wanted to know was how he could use it, or possibly refine it into something better.
With a perhaps well-founded lack of confidence in Levi's ability to understand a super-technical explanation, Valt instead decided to start by asking him some simple math facts.
"Four. Nine." Levi answered obediently. Now where could his trainer be going with this...?
"Right, so you got the right answer... but now here's my question... how do you get it?" Hopefully that question isn't the kind that would toss Levi completely off guard, but here's hoping. But before Levi could fully answer "that question sounds a bit sudden isn't it? But it's basically a process that you can skip. For example, a baby would look at their hand and do the math..." Valt raises two fingers, then another two. "See? That's two plus two, four. They recite it, one, two, three, four, it's four! But just like how the answer came to you just like breathing, you can answer that because you know, and you do the calculation faster than that sort of process..."
And thus, Valt wrote "MACRO" on the board.
"So we talk about Macro. These macros are what I refer as the process of simplifying the process of attacks. So like when you do X-Laser, what do you do? The starting trigger is to usually cross your arms in front of your chest... the next process is to gather energy, and the next process is to uncross your arms from your chest and release the laser, yeah?
If you do these all without first registering it in your macro, it'll takes too long. Thus the idea of Macro is what people often call their "named moves". Some Digimon thinks that executing macro must be done via shouting the name of their technique... Well that's one way to do it, but, you can totally do without!
Creating new moves means creating new macros. But sadly, in case of Digimons, their Macros are limited. For example, without the RAM Upgrade, an adult only have six slots of operable Macros. Contrary to some beliefs, Macros are heavy. They're very heavy because they're bunch of commands that simplifies your action, and make it combat-usable. If they're not combat usable, then what's the difference of doing it manually, just like counting your fingers to do math? That, my friend, how it works. Now, do you get it? Or do I make it sounds too tech talk-y?"
Thankfully, Levi was not thrown off by the question. In fact, the younger ExVeemon would open his mouth to answer soon after the question was asked, even having an answer in mind. He was almost disappointed when Valt answered first, yet silently pleased with himself when said answer was similar to the one he was preparing to give. Either way, the point stood: he had been able to answer the questions because they were practiced knowledge at this point, rather than problems to be solved - math facts, if you would.
The word "MACRO" being written on the board piqued his interest, and he figured he was already on his way to understanding, but he listened silently, not wanting to make any assumptions until the explanation was complete. Valt proceeded to explain the idea of "named moves" in a fashion he had never truly considered before. Each ability was an entire process compressed into a single input and output, at least as far as Levi's conscious actions were concerned.
"Ohh," said Levi, chin placed thoughtfully in his hand. "I never considered it that way. It's a fine explanation, sensei; I understood. Thank you very much. Now, going from there, I would ask another question. With this model of ability usage, may I assume that these 'macros' can be altered, or deleted and replaced, although it would certainly take more effort than doing so with data on a normal human computer?"